Ethan Zohn, winner of the third season of Survivor and contestant on this season’s Winners at War, joins the show to talk about that log challenge on the Edge of Extinction, his soccer career and charity in Africa, his audion for Curb Your Enthusiasm with Larry David, and more.

Menschwarmers is hosted by Gabe Pulver and Jamie Hirsh, and produced and edited by Alex Rose. Michael Fraiman is the supervising producer. Our music is “Brass” by 4bstr4ck3r feat. Daman. You can follow the Menschwarmers on Twitter and check out more podcasts by The CJN Podcast Network here.