Escaping the trauma cycle: How can the Orthodox community make space for queer Jews?

Israeli groups marching in Toronto's Pride parade in 2015. (Photo by Can Pac Swire/Flickr Creative Commons)

The trope of Hasidic women leaving their communities—particularly during a journey of queer self-discovery—is not exactly unique. And yet, memoirs and documentaries continue to come out, the latest being Kissing Girls on Shabbat by Sara Glass, who is now a therapist. After Phoebe Maltz Bovy reviewed the book for The CJN, she had more questions—so we invited Glass on to ask them directly. The three discuss the nature of choice in a world dictated by authority figures, queer spaces in Judaism and how the community can change in the future.

After that, Phoebe and Avi discuss whether the trend of attractive “rat-like” men is antisemitic, as well as a problematic essay about motherhood recently published in Tablet, “How Babies Are Made“.


Bonjour Chai is hosted by Avi Finegold and Phoebe Maltz Bovy. Zachary Kauffman is the producer and editor. Michael Fraiman is the executive producer. Our theme music is by Socalled. The show is a co-production from The Jewish Learning Lab and The CJN, and is distributed by The CJN Podcast Network. Support the show by subscribing to this podcast, donating to The CJN and subscribing to the podcast’s Substack.